Part 4: The Indo-European, Chapter 13: The Scythians of the Altai

Part 4: The Indo-European, Chapter 13: The Scythians of the Altai
Published August 11, 2010

The tattoo of a Scythian mummy of Altai …


Book Two: The peoples

Part 4: The Indo-European

Chapter 13: The Scythians of the Altai

The gold of the Scythians

The number of kurgans known in Russia and in the plains of the Altai, is estimated at over 5000 We think there are at least as much to discover … Each kurgan contains or has contained, before looting, 1 to 10 kgs of gold The Scythian gold can then be estimated at several hundred tons of gold … To extract the same quantity, it is more gold panning, but industry … It should be mine, personnel, equipment, organization of transport, an army of protection, a secure storage area, a payment system for trade, etc. …

The archaeologists Scythian

Technology and logistics manufacturing jewelry, clothing and other objects, is known to the civilizations of the Valley and the Thar Ishkvaku, of – 4000 – 2000 BC But for objects that come in the Scythian kurgans, archaeologists can not say they are as old as they have dated – to 200 – 600 … So how did the Scythians, according to them, to have all these beautiful objects, in these quantities, to be buried in kurgans? Because for archaeologists, are nomadic Scythian barbarians, whom they barely recognize the ability of horse breeder …

Technology of the  Scythian

The Scythians are buried with magnificent gold jewelry, silver, etc. … To produce such a quantity of jewelery, goldsmiths there must be grouped in a city … They also wore sumptuous clothing, everything for which a specialized industry is necessary, especially when they are adorned with large quantities of gold beads and jewelry … Found in kurgans fabric drapes beautifully décoréees, but also wool rug with 4000 nodes square inch … All this technology displayed by the Scythians, is incompatible with nomadism It is compulsory to a fixed organization and consists of a central city The skilled craftsmen capable of creating such art objects, you must feed them, house them, etc …

Scythian cities

The concept of city-states of the Thar valley, then the Ishkvaku, then rebuilt in Russia and the Altai Plain, is ideal for logistics of this civilization So where are the Russian cities Scythian and Altai? This is the point which remains obscure, and it would be interesting to field archaeologists to examine A hypothesis to be confirmed, that would Scythian cities of Russia and Siberian plains of the Altai, less well built than the Ishkvaku, which were already less well built than the Thar valley, have been looted and destroyed by barbarians from the north – 200 BC It therefore remains for archaeologists today that the traces of destruction and passing nomads, and the kurgans, witnesses of the era of Scythian …

The Scythians of the Altai

When the Scythian leave Ikshvaku, from – 2000 BC, one of them goes to Russia Some stay in the region of Samarkand Another important group goes north to Siberia now, in the plains of the Altai The Persians called the Scythians: the Sakas The Haumavarka Sakas, Scythians are the Siberian The Sakas are so named in the Avesta, the sacred book of religion Mazdean The 21 Gathas, the sacred books of the Avesta, is written as the Rig Veda, Vedic Sanskrit This sets a date for the writing of the Avesta: Before – 1500 BC The Chinese specify, in the second century BC, the land of Sakas Haumavarka begin north of Lake Issyk-Kul, in Kyrgystan Ptolemy says that the Scythian tribes living in the Hindukush were only the southern fringe of Scythian world That’s right, because it is in the valley of the Altai, south of Western Siberia, between Lake and Lake Balkash Balkaï, found the Siberian Scythian kurgans

The Scythian kurgans

History confirms that from – 2000 BC, explores some of the Scythian Russia then settles At the same time, another part of the Scythian explores the plains of the Altai, and then settles As shown in the map of kurgans, the two communities are remote from 4 to 7000 km Yet, the funeral rites observed during 1800 years were the same, despite the distance and time, for Scythian as those of Russia’s Altai! Considering the empirical dating archaeologists, kurgans were the preserve of Scythian – 600 – 200 BC Unfortunately for them, they were rattrappés by technology: the carbon-14 dating! They were forced to recognize that kurgans were at least – 1000 BC! They managed to block that date, by not considering older objects, or considering them as reported … They went so far as to say that before – 600, were not Scythian, but proto-Scythian, or names like culture, followed by the name of the place or the name of the archaeologist! To protect the official theory of Aryan invasion, they are ready for any tricks … But of course, when two communities are separated by 7000 km for 1800 years, and they always have an identical culture, unless they have kept the radio and visited regularly by air, it is that it was the same strain at the start …

The menhirs of Altai
Megaliths and petroglyphs are the prerogative of Tocharian The Scythians are characterized by kurgans From certain kurgans we find menhirs Some kurgans are also organized as dolmens This demonstrates that Tocharian neighbor of Mongolia have joined their allies in the Atlantis Scythian plains of the Altai

The kurgans of Altai

As in Russia, there are thousands of kurgans, and few have been excavated It certainly remains much to discover, given 1800 years of occupancy The main known kurgans of Altai are: Pazyryk, Arzhan, Ak-Alacha, Aldy Bej, Maiemir, Tukta, Bashadar, Sayan-Altai, Kazanov, Olon Kurin Gol Karasuk, Tagar, Khystaglar, Kosh Agash, Erba, Li Kitai, Barsuchij Log, Bjisk, Shike, Kudyrge, Katanda, Beludra, Gol and Ojgor Ukok


Pazyryk on the Ukok plateau in the Altai Mountains, south of Novosibirsk is located near the borders with China, Kazakhstan and Mongolia The archaeologist Rudenko practiced there from 1920 excavations that helped to discover 40 tombs kurgans for 1929 The embalmed bodies of the dead were mummified by the weather They rested in coffins dugout larch whose covers were decorated The permafrost has excellent storage for leather goods, wood and textiles: clothing, carpets and harnesses All objects have decorations in gold, silver, horn or leather, in the Scythian Animal Style A body was accompanied by ten chestnut stallions, two Ferghana They wore leather masks decorated with panthers, deer and dragons These masks were topped with golden antlers of deer The Assyrians decorated their horses the same way Among the remarkable objects, they found a removable wooden chariot, whose pieces were worked to turn, and decorated with four figures swan made of felt But also two exceptional carpets The first, of felt, measuring almost 30 square meters and represents a goddess sitting before a rider holding a tree of life The scene is repeated several times, like the wallpaper The second, 2m x 1,90 m, knotted wool, has nearly four thousand square decimeter knots!


North of Tuva, in the plain of Arzhan, it was discovered hundreds of kurgans, forming parallel lines One of them was over 100 m in diameter The burial chambers were supported with trunks of larch There were found many clothes and gold items As always, there are horses buried with the men and beautiful saddles and harnesses enhanced with gold decoration A stool found, is decorated on the sides of large plates or representing a fish We even found, within a kurgan, a grave reservation to a wooden horse One of the most notable graves, consisted of one room beams larch, 2.60 mx 2.40 m, contained within a larger room, 5 mx 4.50 m, like dolls Russian … The burial chamber housed a 40 to 45 and a 30 to 35 years The double burial contained about 9,300 items, not counting the beads, which are gold 5700 Most objects accompanying them, except two bronze mirrors, were originally on the walls Near his head, was found four horses with legs bent and a deer, all decorated with gold inlay enamel His coat was adorned with more than 2,500 gold figurines Panthers He wore leather pants decorated with thousands of tiny gold beads It had leather boots lined with gold He was armed with an iron dagger with a gold handle, in a wooden sheath When restoring the barrel, it was discovered he was hiding two iron daggers His other weapons, bows, carqouis, arrowheads, whip, were north of the burial chamber All weapons were elaborately decorated For the woman who was near him, it was as richly dressed and adorned with lavish garments and many jewels She wore a necklace made of beads garnet, malachite, gold, turquoise and glass paste Personal belongings were disposed west of the burial chamber This was especially the dishes, a wooden cup with a handful of gold, a golden comb with wooden teeth, a stone incense burner, a bronze cup in a leather case and a breastplate of gold animal style


It found 6 kurgans The great Ak-kurgan Alacha is built on a stone slab 40 meters in diameter It is supported by a circle of standing stones In fact, this is a huge dolmen covered with earth in the manner of burial mounds Outside the Kurgan, there are two avenues of menhirs or deer stones, as they are called in Siberia and Mongolia One of the main tombs housed a man and woman who were both armed As in other Scythian tombs have been found in horses, clothes, objects and gold jewelery and precious materials

The kurgans of Bashadar form a semicircle around the mountain Tekpenek They have the reputation of curing the pilgrims who pray in the middle of the semicircle, with the magnetism emitted by kurgans This is not the first time there is for reuse of ancient monument needs more commercial …

Kosh Agash

This is a group of 6 to kurgans frozen tombs characterized by the large number of buried horses and their trappings of wealth



The kurgans Karasuk the dates were from 1500 BC, some even – in 1700! That’s why they were baptized: Karasuk culture … They became Scythian from 600 BC … And they would have skipped a leap forward for Russia until the proto-Scythians from there, on the field, their culture of life, funeral, etc. … This is the official theory …

Li Kitai

Valley of kurgans lies 60 km west of Abakan The kurgans Kitai Li are accompanied by megaliths covered with petroglyphs

Log Barsuchij

The top of the mound of kurgan Barsuchij Log in Khakassia, is headed by more menhirs

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5 Responses to Part 4: The Indo-European, Chapter 13: The Scythians of the Altai

  1. Lee, Junhan says:

    I am Lee from Gyeongju, Korea.
    I am interested in the ancient Korean history. I want to know where the picture of riding-horse man above Karasuk was found. That is, I want to know rhe reference book or reference site of the picture.


      hi here are the references :
      the felt carpet discovered by S. I. Rudenko’s team in the Pazyryk Kurgan.
      Kurgans of Pazyryk in the Ukok Plateau, Altai Mountains

  2. Lee, Junhan says:

    Thank you for your kindness, Mr. Moonstone.
    But that picture(pazyrikhorseman) is not the object of my question.
    I want to know the picture of DSC00411 in which a clay man rides a horse.
    I beg your kind answer once again, please…

  3. Lee, Junhan says:

    A similar clay man riding horse of which picture is in above site was found at the ancient Silla Dynasty tomb of Gyeongju in 1924.
    And I guess that Silla’s royal family was originated from the Yuezhi tribe of Pazyryk valley.
    That’s why I am interested in the picture of DSC00411.
    I expect your kind answer, Mr. Moonstone.
    Thank you…


      hi mr lee

      i thank you very much to have draw my attention to this pic
      i was wrong

      im sorry all my searches confirm me this horse is well of the ancient Silla Dynasty tomb of Gyeongju
      if you look well on the pic it is clear :
      in this one of my site we see a good part of the bottom with black colour over
      in your pic in the site of news naver , it is the same black bottom , but shot some cm over

      i was abused in my searches when i wrote this part of my blog
      i saw , but later , as often google image search , often doesnt give right datas for the pics
      since i remark it , i continue my searches once the pic selected , to have the confirmation of the datas of origin of the pic

      i will now cancel it from my blog
      and once again thanks for your message
      it helps to stay me on the right way for my views on the past

      best regards

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